Click Here to BidLast night I did more leaf study and did this one. I had some hard time painting those light color leaves on the wet dark background. I need some help on this matter. Does anybody know a very quick dry medium such that I can paint on top of it without picking up paint underneath in a short time (a couple of hours or even shorter)? Have you tried paint acrylic first and paint oil on top? Please let me know if you have some good tips. Thanks.
You can always paint oil on top of acrylic. I have used acrylic paint as an undercoat for dark areas successfully, and I know artists who paint an entire value study in acrylic before they paint the final painting in oil. You do have to let the acrylic dry thoroughly before you put the oil on top, but it doesn't take very long.
ReplyDeleteI have heard of painting oil on top of acrylic but don't do it myself. Always remember fat over lean and everything sould be ok.
ReplyDeleteI'd love to see what you do with this.
Beautiful job! You're really getting those leaves to look alive. Great looking painting.
ReplyDeleteI've done oils over thin acrylic underpaintings. Keep it thin & loose, and the fast drying of the acrylics won't bother you too much.
You can also tint a canvas with acrylics, such as a uniform undercoating of yellow ochre or burnt sienna, etc.
Do let the acrylics dry thoroughly!
I have the same problem-painting wet on wet when I need the first layer dry. I'll be curious to read the suggestions. I work on a second painting to give enough time for the first one to dry, but that seems to interrupt my momentum.
ReplyDeleteHave your tried Liquin Fine Detail medium? It speeds up the drying process about 50%.
ReplyDeleteAlso refer to this web page from Winsor Newton:
http://www.winsornewton.com/resource-centre/product-articles/article-drying-times-for-oil-paint/
I use Galkyd with my oils to speed the drying time. Not sure it will work for you as fast as you want it though.
ReplyDeleteYou can clean the shape of
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Dear Qiang,
ReplyDeleteEnthusiastic congratulations to you on your recent decision to pursue art full time! I hope it brings you much joy. You are a master painter and I've learned a great deal by studying your work and reading about your techniques. I'm grateful for the time and effort you put in to sharing your process with us.
You asked about a quick drying medium. Since the day I discovered Liquin, I've used it ever since. I order it on line from Dick Blick or Art Supply Warehouse. Some say it has a strong odor, but I put just a small amount on my palette each day, have good ventilation and I don't really notice it. My paintings are dry to the touch the next day and completely dry within two. I don't know if this will help you with your under painting, but it might be worth a try.
Peace,
Brenda
*I use the Liquin Original.
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You may want to research Gamblin's Neo Meglip medium - claims to be a modern day formulation of a medium used by old masters like Turner, and holds the stroke, meaning the paint underneath the stroke on top remains undisturbed. Fairly quick drying medium too.
ReplyDeleteEnjoying the blog by the way - I paint late at night as much as possible after a full day of accountancy so I now the level of commitment and hard work you must have gone through to get to where you have done - congrats..
Don't paint in oil, then put any type of acrylic paint or medium on top of the first layer, then paint another layer of oil on top of that; the two will not bind that way. The other comments are correct,it's fine to do an acrylic under painting though.
ReplyDeleteTry M. Graham walnut alkyd....dries in a few hours! No smell at all...Liquin is an awful smell. Best to you.
ReplyDeleteThe formula of "Liquin" is: 1/3 oil
ReplyDelete1/3 dammar vernish 1/3 turpentine.
You can modify the percentuals of the ingredients to make it faster dry
augmenting the percentual of vernish.
Preparing the mixture in a bottle, and shaking it very good.
However I think you know this product.
Greatings from Venice - Italy.
hello! I have just discovered your wonderful blog and can't wait to peruse your entries more! as for painting wet over dry--you may want to try the painting mediums by alchemist--made to dry within the same painting period. I have tried them, you have to paint the underlayers very very thin and then be very in control of the top layers--not too much manipulation of paint once it's down. I have not mastered them as of yet. I have always used liquin and I don't notice any smell like others do. some seem to be more sensitive.
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I love the Alla Prima method, it perfectly suits my impatient nature (also a reason I enjoy watercolor painting)- watching paint dry is always tedious.
ReplyDeleteHere, in Australia, I have used a number of methods to speed drying.
1. I use Art Spectrum painting medium Liquol No.4. Overnight drying, two hour set and virtually NO SMELL.
2. Acrylic underpainting as others have said.
3. In winter I place my paintings next to the wood fired heater.
4. In summer I place paintings in the back window of the car parked in the sun.
I've followed your blog for some years now and enjoy every post - may fortune smile upon you.
Liquin (the brand name of Winsor & Newton)is an alkyd resin. W&N produce a range of paints using alkyd instead of linseed as the binder. It gives about 2 hours working time and dries overnight. At the end of the two hours, the lower layers have already gone beyond the tacky stage and can be painted over if you work gently. Drying times are temperature dependent - hot sunny days and the first paint is tacking off after an hour.
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